http://www.modelrailroadforums.com/forum/showthread.php?p=141874#post141874, Tourist Railroad and Railway Museum Directory. I'd always thought (not sure why) that Rivarossi was an off-brand, to be avoided if detail was a consideration. $59.95 + $14.82 shipping. Sounds good; however that does mean most of the replies you got don't apply since they're referencing the 'old' Rivarossi cars from the 1960's-1990's. They all needed weight. www.newsnorthwoods.blogspot.com. Jeff. I believe the many of the RPOs and baggage cars survived into the 1960s. Those cars were completely different than the Rivarossi / Hornby / Walthers 60' cars that came out a quarter century later. The roofs may, or may not, have been either black, 'pullman green', or 'dark green truck enamel'. Body mounting Kadee couplers is doable. After upgrades, they look good and run well on my layouts. I intend to replace the trucks in the long run with the 41-BNO series, which was often found on ACL and Southern Railway Budd units. The combine and diner matched ATSF prototypes, the pullman was a standard type, as was the observattion. Walthers Plastic HO Model Train Passenger Cars, Walthers HO Flat Car Model Train Carriages, I discovered they they meant 18, not 17 3/4, when I checked one flex-track curve. The car floors were predrilled with holes for wiring the car for electrical pickup from the trucks for lighting, but the wheels were plastic. I some times take the Fife Shuttle and deliver Dan's trailer to him there in Fife. They were good models for their time, but had truck mounted couplers. I have an old NYC Hudson that runs great and will also run on code 83 track after I turned down the flanges with my dremel and stone wheel. The window material is inset so they are "flush" with the exterior wall of the car. Thanks to everyone who has chimed in. I have a few of those in the IC paint. Does anyone know for sure what the prototypes (if any) for these cars are? The RPO and Baggage were also approximate 60' size. . The newer sets of the 60' cars are of higher quality. Hi Jeff. The smooth-side diner is based on a UP 4800-series diner (built circa 1949) The original smooth-side coach was supposedly based on a CN car, in Rivarossis last few years they produced a nice version of a UP 5450-series 44-seat coach (1953-vintage) that was also similar to some other UP coaches. I am getting a four car set of 60 foot cars. HO Scale AHM/Rivarossi (5) Passenger Cars "Baltimore & Ohio" Lot#1246. > > So called, "Pullman Green" was the most common color on passenger cars from> the turn of the century until after WWII. I bought some a while ago and they have given me nothing but problems to deal with. I have some vague recollecction the coach was Soo Line but no longer recall why I think that. Rivarossi 60' Passenger Cars: Anything other than Coaches coming? Good answers above from fellow forum members. I ended up pulling up the curve and fixing it. I used pan head 6-32 machine screws to secure the trucks. However, if you prefer to keep the factor Rivarossi trucks, metal wheel replacements seem to work fine on them. I can't wait until my set arrives. Many railroads used these cars or similar ones from the 1900's well into the diesel era. ModelRailroadForums.com is a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for sites to earn advertising fees by advertising and linking to amazon.com. Find many great new & used options and get the best deals for Rivarossi HO RTR Southern Pacific Heavyweight 4-Car Set, Used, VG at the best online prices at eBay! But even in the late 50's and early 60's, I remembera couple Q steam fan trips where they were still able to assemble a completegreen heavyweight train - my few photos from those trips where my "peoplefilter" was really working look just like old Lucius Beebe steam portraits.GQ. Before the latest "era" in model railroading, Rivarossi "Red Box" steamers were about as good as one could get. I just wanted to confirm that Hornby now owns Rivarossi and you won't find Athearn in the Walthers catalog or website anymore as Horizon & Walthers are competetive distributors now and don't sell each others' products. One baggage, one RPO, one combine and one coach. Everyday trains got Pullman Green.> /Partly/ because that green was the official color for Pullman which owned> and operated most sleeping cars until after WWII. Enjoy your new engine. If so, sounds great. Gene Chief Brass Hat Virginia Tidewater and . Rivarossi Accessories - AC Wheel Sets "10. When I was buying them in the 1980s, interiors were optional, iirc. This required modifications to the underframe to accommodate the center mounting point versus the older Rivarossi asymmetrical approach. I think Kadee made a special part for this purpose (the work was done some years back). $1200 IHC 9052 RIVAROSSI HO INTERIOR FOR ROOMETTE SLEEPER 4 WHEEL 1930 PASSENGER CAR $1200 Train Interior Rivarossi AHM IHC 1920's Duplex Sleeper Passenger Car HO Scale $2500 Passenger Seating Car Coach Interior For MDC Roundhouse HO Scale Overton Coach Gray $800 HO Train 50' Combine Passenger Luggage Car Interior Roundhouse MDC $1200 I weakened and bought a boat tail observation car because it was cool, not because the B&M ever owned one. ), it's going to be a loteasier to make up some decent-looking typical heavyweight consists thatdon't look as much like a boxed set. RIVAROSSI HO gauge 4 CAR PASSENGER SET - GREAT NORTHERN EMPIRE - 6944 BOXED | Collectables, Model Railways & Trains, Railways & Trains | eBay! 2d 20h +$15.00 shipping Sponsored Rivarossi 2335 - 2340 6 Passenger Cars NMRA 50th Anniversary HO Scale Pre-Owned $169.15 Was: $199.00 15% off Buy It Now +$17.50 shipping Free returns Sponsored Ho Scale Rivarossi SP Passenger Car Pre-Owned $34.00 or Best Offer Just my thoughts, ideas, opinions and experiences. So called, "Pullman Green" was the most common color on passenger cars from the turn of the century until after WWII. Are other than coach cars forthcoming? 36" would be more correct but they would not clear inside the truck frame without surgery on the brake shoes. * For similar cars, see also ConCor Heavyweights. Mine were lettered for the Burlington but I removed that and relettered them for my fictional branchline. I also have a set of the "Southern Crescent". I don't use diaphragms, and they didn't come with any. GQ. RIVAROSSI HO SCALE U25C DIESEL LOCOMOTIVE (#266188039026) d***r (61) - Feedback left by buyer d***r . Bundles. Rivarossi; N Freight Trucks; N Passenger Car Trucks; Gas Turbine; U-50; N Raintree Products - Hood Shells; . By todays standards they are average. But we (my dad and I) went crazy and also bought a 2-8-8-2 and a bunch of other things. Picture Information. Sold. The assembled structure measures 5. They are generic designs and not specific to any the prototype. All have truck mounted horn-hook couplers, and they stay on the track just fine. You might find a few wood passenger cars in the thirties/forties but it would be very rare. The Walthers/Rivarossi cars are/were available in four types - Utility Coach and Utility Combine, based on CNW 60' cars, and RPO and Baggage cars. The set consists of a coach, combine, RPO, and baggage. 2017 Rivarossi/Athearn PRR HO Scale Passenger Train See Sold Price. I recently bought an eight car, Rivarossi streamline train in CNW on ebay. 8% positiveSeller 99. More weight (depending how much) will make the cars ''track'' better. The so called "Empire Builder" green on the GN was of this nature. The RPO was placed in service on the mainline mail train and lettered for that. I'll just add that a few years back I modified my Rivarossi Budds with metal wheels and filled the cavities in the underframe with BB pellets which were covered with glue. Painted Daylight 1941 for the San Joaquin. I will have a lot more questions soon. The new Rivarossi cars appear to be based on the same C&NW prototypes as the old Walthers cars - full RPOs in the 9413-33 series, baggage cars in various 87xx series, combines in various batches in the 74xx series, and coaches in several groups numbered between 3088 . They were 60ft 10 1/4 inches over the end sills and 60ft 1inch interior length. . 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Buyers choice. 4. The RPOs and baggage cars were more ubiquitous and are probably like cars rostered by ATSF and CB&Q. These 60'ers are just the ticket for my smaller layout. I'm afraid they'll vanish from the marketplace, Modeling the Wabash from Detroit to Montpelier The same guy (Bernard Paul) was involved in both, but the products were not the same. Mid-grade? It did require shaving away some of the cast on brake shoes but with care you can shave away enough to retain the "look" of the shoes yet let the wheels turn freely. Login, or register today to interact in our online community, comment on articles, receive our newsletter, Many older CB&Q head end cars were repainted an aluminum color in the 50's and 60's so they would not stand out so prominently when run in trains of fluted-side stainless steel cars. I don't know if wjstix has had experience with these particular cars, or just body mounted couplers on 60' cars acting up on less than 24" radius. Here is a link showing Walther's Rivarossi stock of passenger cars. the whole point is moot since i pull them with either a pair of P2K E units or a couple of boiler equipped P2K geeps. Looking at these cars, the couplers are body, not truck mounted, BUT the couplers are mounted on a swinging arm, which allows more travel in addition to the normal coupler movement. PRR had so much stuff there may be some hope there. I also seem to recall that the observation car may have been a business car. The roofs may, or maynot, have been either black, 'pullman green', or 'dark green truckenamel'. They used to be sold without any interior detailing. 60 Ft. RPO - O Scale. They have truck-mounted couplers for operation on sharp curves. $60.00 5% off + $11.30 shipping. They are decent looking although not prototypical. Most all of my Rivarossi/AHM cars have interiors, I add weight in the vestibules (the rectangular 'peel and stick' weights) since the cars are pretty light. Rivarossi HO 85' Smoothe Side Diner Louisville & Nashville "Cross Keys Tavern", Rivarossi HO 85' Smooth Side Coach Louisville & Nashville #2585 - Nice, Passenger Car Interior KIT for AHM/Rivarossi 72ft Heavy-Weight Coach [ HO ]. O SCALE AHM RIVAROSSI 4 CAR BOXED PASSENGER CAR SET-C-9-used-Original Boxes! They were very good quality for the 60's and 70's. These HO scale cars can run on a radius as small as 18 inches allowing them to run on compact layouts. Saw some late in the day at the Timonium train show. Capt, I could be wrong about this (and I'm sure someone will point that out to me) but I thought Rivarossi, as a train manufacturer business was gone. AU $51.94 . Years ago I simply replaced the Riv's wheels with Kadees as that was all that was available. 2. Their passenger cars are decent though. really, they roll great. My cars have couplers that are body mounted in extra swing boxes so they can do those curves. It has everything except smoke. PremierName trains got the pretty paint. The Rivarossi RPO's are 60-footers. David Starr 60' cars. Reply Adding diaphragms helps appearance too. I believe all of the 'old' Rivarossi (AHM)cars first offered in the 1960s were full 80' length, except for cars (like say the head end cars and heavyweight coaches) where theprototype car was shorter; they weren't 'shorties' like say Athearn passenger cars. -fm Perpetrator of the Haggis Decal Project, at, On Thu, 15 Jan 2004 00:21:44 UTC, "Christian" wrote: 2000. at the best online prices at eBay! I'm glad its a steam that I am getting. I have one 2-8-8-2 that has headed up a group of 237 coal cars at a local show. As some of the others have said, there are two different sets. I bought Walthers lighting kits, which included new trucks with metal wireframes. #508 HO Scale AHM Rivarossi 4 wheel Coupler Conversion Bolsters Be the first to review this product $5.99 Availability: In stock 287 in stock SKU 508 Add to Cart #508 HO Scale AHM Rivarossi 4 wheel Coupler Conversion Bolsters is available to buy in increments of 1 Details #508 HO Scale AHM Rivarossi 4 wheel Coupler Conversion Bolsters 1pr. Horn-hook couplers were truck mounted on long bars for trainset curves. Thanks Don! . $134.99 + $14.87 shipping. Rivarossi was very innovative and the Pocher brand (Luxury car kits at 1/8 scale) are also issued from the same Italian factory. manage your account online and more! I looked at these cars with interest. All the cars date from the 1920's. They are decent looking although not prototypical. I was wondering if the sets offered by Trainworld at $30 were the same, but never got through to staff to find out, the line was always busy. 2022 Vintage HO Athearn Santa Fe SW-1 Switcher Loco . http://cgi.ebay.com/Walthers-Trainline-City-Express-Ho-ScaleTrain-Set_W0QQitemZ170136478613QQihZ007QQcategoryZ19135QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem. They LOOK like nice cars, but where can they, reasonably correctly, be used? I own many of them. A railroad had to bemighty big to get Pullman to specially paint Pullman cars for a specifictrain. I kept the stock trucks but switched to knuckle couplers (I forgot what number). I've got 3 Rivarossi coaches and a baggage car. I will look to add a single car of each style tothe Fast Freight Express that we are assembling. The coaches were an exception and I don't know their prototype. The 4 car types would rarely have been used together, as the commuter runs did not carry RPOs, and the combines provided sufficient baggage space for the commuter trains. . Something went wrong. Premier Name trains got the pretty paint. Rivarossi Plastic HO Model Railroad Passenger Cars Best Selling HO Rivarossi 85' Canadian National1930 Sleeper Car # 2615 $31.00 New Rivarossi Union Pacific 60ft Baggage Car HO Scale Trains HOPC 6 (2) $79.99 New Rivarossi 6901 HO Atchison Topeka & Santa FE Barnum Coach and Passenger Set $58.99 New Here's a quick unboxing and review of the Rivarossi 60'. On those, I have replaced the trucks with Walthers passenger trucks. You will find locals passing through Wisconsin with those headend cars and the coaches. On the GN the baggages and RPOs all seem> to have had differing door locations, and the coaches all have> vestibules on BOTH ends.> > They LOOK like nice cars, but where can they, reasonably correctly, be used?> > There is, of course, the possibility of running non-home-road equipment> in many trains, especially sleepers and head-end equipment.> > Dan Mitchell> ==========, These are CNW prototypes, but similar cars were widely used, especially thebaggage and rpo.-- Brian Ehni, You do not have permission to delete messages in this group, Either email addresses are anonymous for this group or you need the view member email addresses permission to view the original message, A few quick questions regarding the NEW Rivarossi 60' passenger cars [as, I looked at these cars with interest. The coupler box "swing arm" is well supported too, which will avoid coupler droop. You simply can't go wrong using the best. Excellent. + $5.60 shipping. Prices for these sets seem to range from $40.00 to $110.00 depending upon how many bidders there were. A few photos(photos will enlarge if clicked upon). Free shipping for many products! ok, i am back. His passion for trains began when he was a child. Off the top of my head, the RPO is a match or near-match for RPOs thatthe C&O and the Wabash used, and I /think/ the B&O, Southern and L&N. The Athearn cars can be a little hit and miss, sometimes they're in production, sometimes not!! My cars came with couplers body mounted in swing boxes, so the cars are rated to take the 18-inch curves on my layout. The 60' commuter cars were replaced and scrapped as the 85' bi-level cars began being delivered in 1956. Fetters and Alco worked together to develop . Rivarossi steam was about the best you could get in the 70's and 80's for plastic steam, other choices were Mantua and Bowser diecast engines that took lots of detailing to make them look nice, or Brass engines. PRR had so much stuffthere may be some hope there. You live in Skagit County and are calling FIFE SCENIC? While I've never bought one new, I have quite a few bought off the "used" table at a now long-gone hobbyshop.I think that the detail is decent, although the wheels are undersize, and have flanges which are deeper than most HO scale wheels. You never really specified which kind you were buying, so the responses were all over the place. I also have A PRR GG1 (sold by AHM) and even though it is only single truck drive and underpowered, again with the large flanges it runs very well. Can anyone comment about Rivarossi passenger cars? RIVAROSSI HO Carro gru a 2 assi+BOX Catalogo Collezionisti 1957/58/59/60 RARIT . I am looking to replace the horn and hook couplers that are on the IHC carswith Are the Kato and ConCor Union Pacific passenger cars the same colors? If you have Rivarossi's 60' Baggage RPO car, THAT one I used Jaybee 110 or 111 coupler pads, Jaybee 36" wheels, and Kaydee #38 couplers were perfect.. A Line weight's brought it to 3 3/4oz. Hi Doug, good to hear from you. I think it was Don that said no problem, even on 18" curves, which doesn't surprise me. On the cars pictured below I replaced the stock Rivarossi "Pizza Cutter" wheels with. So if your layout has sharp curves, the MDC cars would be a better choice. You have to go to theHorizonwebsite to find what's available. Its a Red Box 4-8-8-2 cab forward. Started by patzwaldb, February 21, 2009, 02:19:16 PM. Apr 15, 2023 10:00 AM EDT. . I'm not super concerned with the level of detail, I just want to know how the cars are overall. On the 18" line I did run them forward and backward and no problem, I also ran them through one turnout. Appreciate it.. I have a couple of these sets and would recommend them highly. 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