@Unknown_Force Its not the campy play alone. You only need to focus on the basics to be average. WebWHY Smash Bros Ultimate IS A BAD GAME. Plus, most people who go to locals are friendly and will be more than happy to give input on what you're doing wrong, what you're doing right, and ways to improve. Alternatively, this ad may have just failed to load. Teabagging is actually used as a strategy to make the opponent play worse since it easily pisses off a good amount of players and makes them play bad. If youve been following along this guide step by step, you should have a pretty good idea of what things you want to add into your pre-online warmup. It's ok to mock people who play Fighting Games on WiFi. By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. I'm a college student and my apartment mate and best buddy brought his Switch from home last year. I need advice for either getting better or how to play with people that are many many levels better than I am. That gives you specific things to work on in your training mode sessions, so you can spend whatever amount of time you have actively practicing instead of just fumbling around doing special moves. I was playing smash online when I lost a match and after the winner was announced I immediately got an error message that said "this software needs to close due to an error". Often, this will be in preparation for a big tournament. I'll be getting a hold of an SD card so I can upload real soon. Always keep habits in mind when playing. You basically want to be able to autopilot and only really thinking about advantage and disadvantage in positioning. By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. The input lag throws off many people, including top level pros. I prefer Online being Also the game just doesn't feel as responsive. Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. If youre truly, completely unhappy, stop playing and do something else. 74. I find that watching tutorials for the character you play as helps, and even watching a pro who mains your character could help as well ( just watch what they do and see if you can replicate it ). I am under the impression that nobody is inherently bad at anything, they just need practice. Its one of the things that makes it special. You need to be able to do those in your sleep because theyre the most consistent, and dropping them is basically giving up free damage. I'd also recommend looking up and joining the character discord for who you play. Some people, no matter how much they train and practice, will never be good at certain things. Try not to learn too much too quickly. There's times I get stuck being punished for the same thing again and again usually because I can't come up with something new to do, usually when I'm landing. You should be able to find advices against specific match ups. My biggest advice is to take replays of your losses. Anticipate predict and react. Its always good to go back to basics no matter how competitive the scene is getting. WebSuper smash brothers ultimate is a bad game. Im starting to question if I should bother anymore. Maybe you like Rushdown or Shoto characters, says Riddles. sunpi 117K subscribers Join Subscribe 1.3K Share Save 38K When the brackets are released, some players like to look at who they may play against in the early stages, then play as many battle arenas as they can against players with the same mains. I feel like its an opportunity to just have fun and improve whether you win or lose. You're opponent isn't obligated to play the way you want them to. I also have a ton of trouble inputting the right controls in that I know what to press and I feel like I'm pressing all the right things, but my character doesn't exactly do that. But dont get discouraged, its important to remember that, while youre improving, everyone that you regularly play with is improving as well at a relatively similar rate. and our I'm sure others wouldn't mind chiming in either. My friends are also becoming pros at destroying icies for sure. What sets Smash apart from other one-on-one fighters is that youre going to have different BnBs depending on your opponents current damage percentage. It's really all about adapting to situations. Any tips on how to get better? I mainly play Smash online if I want to play something. Once youve settled on a main that you feel comfortable with, its time to start committing the stuff you learned during research to muscle memory. The rest of mentality and patience. That's no problem; everyone has to start from somewhere. If you lost against this challenger, see what other players did to win. I've bought my own Switch, practiced offline, watched a ton of streaming's (Big D is a really cool guy), practiced with other friends willing to coach me a bit. One of the issues facing would-be lab-monsters in Smash Ultimate is the lack of varied training mode tools. Welcome to Reddit's finest Smash Bros. community! As I said i'm not interested in winning any tournament, i just want to stop being the literal worst 1% at the game (normalized by GSP). By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. These days I'm maining byleth and dark pit, and the former really prioritises being able to read what the enemy is going to do, which is great. Jan 9, 2019 #1 So it's been a couple of weeks since I've upgraded from Smash 3DS to Smash Ultimate, and I completely suck, still. I settled with maining Ice Climbers, learned the basics, and some advanced techniques, and for a while had down basic desync combos for ice climbers, but nothing I do made me near competitive with all my buddies. This happens to the vast majority of players after they get hit, and a lot players can lose focus for the entire match after going down a stock. It goes without saying that practice makes perfect, but effectively managing your efforts is tough when you dont know where to start. If ultimate had a better training mode we could lab how to counteract specific scenarios just like every other fighting game. I know it's all supposed to be a game and it's supposed to be really fun but when the main activity that all my friends pour hours into is Smash and I'm absolute garbage when put against them, it becomes really demoralizing. You might not be looking at your opponent, even if you know you should be and even if you believe you are. CPU battles sometimes are random af, at least for me. Aim to improve your own game, your own skills, and your own techs that you need to make Icies shine. Unfortunately, low GSP opponents tend to use Wi-Fi as opposed to Ethernet, negatively impacting latency. I'll try following through with this! I'm afraid I'd forget to compensate for the slightly delay and SD. If you like to play if you like to play from a distance or you want stategy dont play roy. I'm a long time lurker and this is my first time posting. But nevertheless i was very good in online play in Smash u and now I struggle against level 3 or 4 bots in ultimate. I was trying out the online I just kind of mess around with all of my characters tools and refresh myself on how certain moves lead into other moves.. This was my first thought. This is where youll be able to have the most focused training time. Practice movement on and off platforms, mid-stage, and on and off ledges. I wouldn't know half of what I do without having done that. Cookie Notice Every time your opponent hits you, make a mental note of why you got hit. However, it sounds like your group has played the game for much longer than you, so you should indeed expect to fight uphill battle. Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. If it's not fun dont play. Losing focus can be very subtle sometimes, but a good rule of thumb is if you come out of a match thinking I dont know what just happened, chances are you lost focus on your opponent without realizing it. Woops! Did you throw out a laggy attack and get punished? Thanks for the feedback in advance! What am I doing wrong??? Its clear to me that it isnt so much about tbagging or taunting but just the combination of all these things some people do when they want to be a jackass. I could've gotten to a level where I was consistent with Peach but I wanna make good use of my time. This is a good point, is my hypothesis correct then? ViewedManyTimes 1 yr. ago Getting coached to start using new options and cleaning up inputs is fine but forcing that into your muscle memory will take some time. Play online for a while. You are currently viewing our boards as a visitor. What movement techniques do they use that you don't. i've been wondering the same thing, now i can't just pick ness and win . I have my main in Elite Smash and my secondaries always in between 6.5mil and 7mil, but I also have characters that I can play stuck at <1mil because I gain so little. If youre just hopping into quickplay, it may be tough to see any actual progress in your play. On the other hand there's King dedede, I hit him to like 80% and am close to finish him, but then he kills me in the next seconds with like one combo even though I was 0% before that. Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. Please check it out, it'd really help me. By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. Offline and online mode are two completely different aspects of Smash Ultimate. This is the first step to climbing GSP and facing better opponents. Try Battle Arenas, they get you into good matches more often than you'd think. Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. Hi, i edited in a replay on the post! WebThe problem they made with Smash Ultimate was the balancing. Online Ultimate is a bit of a mess. Riddles recommends you try to play an hour a day if you can. Archived post. Netplay is where youll do the bulk of your training since most of us cant make it to local events every day of the week. Generally, you shouldnt just think about winning. Be more defensive. I definitely hopped around a bit, after settling on Ice Climbers but I don't know why, I keep going back to them despite them being harder to use, and more frustrating when I lose with them. Despite a lot of progress, I'm still losing constantly, countless hours a day, and playing can feel miserable. It's like this. @LeonMitarashi I agree about tbagging. I train with a friend and consistently beat him but in quickplay i can't get out of 100k GSP, i'm unable to win a single match been playing since launch and have no idea what im doing wrong. If you want to level up, you have to convert any openings you get into as much damage as possible and finish your plate. Since Melee they saw a different between Then sit down and watch those replays carefully. Sorry, this post was deleted by the person who originally posted it. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. Just play a ton of online and let all the movement become second nature. Training mode in Smash Ultimate may not have the most robust set of options like other games (such as being able to record sequences for the training dummy to carry out) but it does let you adjust the dummys damage percentage so you can get to work on your different BnBs. It might help root out the problem of what you need to work on. Ask some people to play with you. It's kind of making me not want to play, because I get absolutely trashed by anyone who isn't a level 2 CPU or lower. What works for me is going into matches trying to deliberately focus on one or two things at a time. How to deal 40% damage or more with a single attack as Incineroar. https://youtu.be/uXvKpe5MP0s. For now just enjoy the learning opportunities. But I was so much better in Smash u and I don't think that the game changed completely. By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. Set your own goals that arent being the winner according to the game, but the winner according to your journey into one day flexing on your roomates through sheer perseverance. See what their character does in specific situations.. You can learn and practice whatever advanced things youre trying to master and look for bad habits and mistake you mightve made. Nintendo really needs to upgrade their garbage servers. I played smash competitively for a year before I started winning tournament sets. IDK why, but it just feels like I'm not in control. Did you mis-space an attack on the opponent's shield and get grabbed/attacked out of shield? Learning matchups is the best thing you can do online, says Riddles about why a lot of top players, including himself, reach out for specific matchup experience ahead of a tournament. 2023 GAMESPOT, A FANDOM COMPANY. Born too late to explore Earth, born too early to explore space. Dont just move around and throw out moves. Edit: sorry for not including my play style. Fundamentals across all characters is more important anyway. Here, if you find someone who gave you a challenge, you can practice against them with a number of characters. A lot of people catch me no matter what I do (side b, fast fall, falling for the ledge, below the ledge and up b). I'm on the icies discord right now that someone above linked, but I also started using pichu/pikachu as of last night. Even if you don't engage there, they usually have resources for you to look into your character's strategies, combos, and techniques. Did you fail to block a projectile or an approaching attack? This is also a result of removing taunts in some of the online modes, which ironically makes it worse since, in my opinion at least, a taunt doesn't look as stupid as repeatedly crouching. I've learned tilts, recovery, etc at a basic level but this game makes me feel like I have a developmental disability. feedback is really, really welcome, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tTH-SSn2ePI, This is probably the most useful video about getting good at smash that I have watched. I've said before that the online connectivity in Smash Brothers Ultimate has been pretty solid overall, at least in my experience. A few truths I've learned playing Smash Ultimate online tournament style, Your mw is in if the person below would smash. The official Subreddit for Super Smash Bros. I myself tried to main peach at first, but I got tired of dropping combos and the high execution and switched to Roy and Inkling and won a lot more (they are more fun for me now anyway). A few truths I've learned playing Smash Ultimate online tournament style. It's easy to get stuck in a rut but try and call losses "leaning opportunities" instead and try and stay positive. Don't be so hard on yourself, man. Watching others is one of the best ways to improve. My take is that you are probably dealing with a a combination of bad habits and not being aware of tools you have available to you. Also every person I've seen at that level tends to be missing fundamentals. Ps: sorry it might be confusing, Im not the best at these types of thingsbecause Im not very confident in my ability to help others. As for the teabagging, yeah This applies to any game, not just Smash. While watching tourney VODs will show you what the top level players do, its mostly showing you how other people play Smash. Share resources, ask for tips, post replays for critique and engage in discussion to improve in Smash. All of my friends only play casually so I'm stuck with playing online because it's not so fun to have one competitive person playing with a group of casuals :/. It's a GAME. Now youre online. Use shield and dodging a lot. WebWhen people say getting bodied is good for you, they tend to miss several key aspects which I explain in this video. I'm far from a professional but I win more than I lose online and if you save and post a replay where you lost but felt like you played near your best, I'd be happy to look over it for you and analyze some of the things you could improve upon! You need to play mindfully and think about what you want to improve during your play session. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. Even when I try, and apply things I've learned from YouTube videos, I get absolutely wrecked by even casual players who just button Smash. As you watch through the match, you will very quickly notice patterns where you get hit the same way multiple times. I just shrugged it off and went into another battle. You need to diversify who all you are playing against. There is a wide swath of characters, being a multitude of ways, so the generic gameplans youve developed may not always work. Yeah i watched this video before, it's what helped me beat my friend pretty much 100% of the time. Do only pros play this game? Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. Don't stick too much to GSP. Try new characters, learn new combos. I saw someone else mention r/crazyhand. You'll get better over time, but it'll take a while. Time went on and as it did, I played less. For more information, please see our But some of my friends with a hundred hours absolutely destroy me. Look up VODs and keep training mode on. Archived post. You have to know what youre working with (and if you like it), then you can come up with a gameplan. Why wouldnt more people want to play like this? Talk about anything 18: Deticated to Pikamee (Also, HAPPY EASTER!). I'd recommend posting a replay to r/crazyhand as well. WebIt started up with no lag whatsoever, and then around 10 seconds in I got a connection error, and then I got banned for 31 minutes. Most of the time the enemy grabs me and then it was worthless dodging, maybe I am doing something wrong. I have some recordings I made for myself before as a milestone kind of thing and I definitely want to get them reviewed. In battle arenas, you can set your own preferred rules and you can lock the arena so only friends can join. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. But you still need to compete. Running away and camping the whole time is one thing. I usually go into training mode to warm up, see how my character feels and then go online, says Riddles who feels that, while netplay is inferior to offline play, its still a very valuable training tool. People talk about mindgames, mixups and adapting and all that fluff but all you need to do as a beginner is just note what move you got hit by everytime you get hit and when you start to see a pattern, figure out how to avoid hit by the same move twice, and keep that idea in mind. WebThe GSP system is bad because it doesn't show how good people are when you can play jank rulesets online (not a problem for me but a problem to others). Britain's Got Talent's Amy Lou Smith gushes over newborn daughter Aida and says she watched her audition from her hospital bed after giving birth HOURS before show aired. Play wifi.. if your playing countless hours a day it better be vs a real person, I actually dont think Id recommend this, For seasoned players, its a good way to get some matches in, sure. Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. Also it's pointless trying to get near an enemy to attack because no matter my reaction time I get instantly hit first by anyone. I can't speak much too it and it My advice would be to try different characters, the roster is almost 80 characters, no reason to settle on just one. Orangevale Adventist Church | When you begin to live Gods WebThere's nothing toxic about campy play. Here are 6 tips to make the most of practice time in Super Smash Bros. Although you may be struggling with the online portion, it's likely that you're a much better player If you already have an Ethernet Cable, I would highly recommend you forget about GSP for now and begin using Battle Arenas. It's fine to not like it but it's up to you to stop it. Each character has something, and knowing what that something is, is really important for being competitive in this game. If your not enjoying the game and having it negatively impact your life. My highest gsp fighter is 2 million and Im too scared to play them in quick play due to the fact that they might go back down to the one millions. That's 40% of the roster. Improve your gaming with tips from . I do really want to feel comfortable playing in any situation one day. I main hero, but I also play Mario and Joker Ill include a video of one of my games if this gets attention because I dont really feel like getting beat up anymore today, and I have been watching some tournament gameplay. Privacy Policy. , considered one of, if not THE best Terry player in the world, to find out how he makes the most of his time. Try and see what habits your opponents have in certain situations (getting up from the ledge is one of the easier ones to remember when starting out) and try and keep track of what habits you have formed when they punish you for them. 2023 GAMESPOT, A FANDOM COMPANY. Hi, Reddit. Eventually my roomie and I started going to Scan this QR code to download the app now. Its a good practice to get into if youre having trouble against certain characters. Improving your performance can be difficult, no matter what game youre playing. However, newer players will absolutely get cheesed with stupid crap, and will likely pick up some real bad habits that will get them bopped IRL. By continuing to use this site, you are agreeing to our use of cookies. I've never gotten that one before, but fine. The suite of tools at least includes options to see information on a characters moves, set fixed damage percentages and turn on data such as when characters are invincible/intangible. This leaves netplay as one of the best places to mindfully practice before youre ready for locals. Yet every time I look back and reflect on my general player skill, I just feel dissapointed. This can't be my internet's problem; my wifi 2. Taunts are nice and I dont really mind them. There arr pepole that join noobs only arenas to win so maybe its happend. Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. Whenever I play online in 1v1s for example, its constant people playing campy, running away refusing to approach and tbagging on top of it. WebSmash Ultimate has always felt a bit strange to play. i think they reworked the ai this time around so thats wh y it seems so much harder, I'll Google about that in a sec. It's short, but the 'adaptation' mechanics are really really important because then the oponent doesn't know what to expect, will it be grab? For muscle memory do Izaw drills until you can do all the basic ones while watching netflix or something (no need to b-reverse). Look at how many characters we have here. I'm not looking to be a pro or anything, but with Elite Smash at ~7mill GSP, the GSP considers me worse than 99% of players, is that even possible? Who better to get advice from, than someone whos main fighter is the one causing you grief? And by balancing i mean skill level balancing not characters. A wise man once said "Power tends to corrupt, and absolute power corrupts absolutely" @SunReaper I hear that, but as Im explaining throughout this thread, its more than just some people. WebIve been playing smash ultimate coming up on 360 hours, and I cant win in quick play for the life of me. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Although you may be struggling with the online portion, it's likely that you're a much better player when it comes to offline. - YouTube 0:01 / 14:52 WHY Smash Bros Ultimate IS A BAD GAME. 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