I have tried just about every bullet made. The shoulder diameter of the Hornady case is also a bit wider in diameter than the Ackley. Case life is long, and barrel life is normally around 7,000 or 8,000 rounds (at least for minute-of-varmint accuracy) due largely to the modest pressures and rather small powder charges. <oneshot>. When developing its version of the .17 Hornet, Hornady shortened the .22 Hornet case about 0.050 inch to make overall cartridge length compatible with the magazines of existing rifles in .22 Hornet. With the case shoulder bumped back and bullets reseated, it averaged 0.64 inch for five, five-shot groups at 100 yards. Shooting reloads may void any warranty on your firearm. The .220 Swift is a .22-caliber round that fires .224-inch bullets, the same as used atop .223 Remington, .22-250 Remington, .224 Weatherby Magnum, .24 Nosler and similar .22 centerfire cartridges. Several five-shot groups fired at 100 yards measured less than 0.250 inch. The Hodgdons 2012 Annual Manual and the Hodgdon website list about the same maximum loads for the .17 Ackley Hornet and .17 Hornet with some powders. A lot of trouble for sure, but it satisfied my curiosity. Meet the all-new Taurus Judge Executive Grade, a revolver featuring a hand-polished satin finish, presentation-grade wood grips, a brass rod front sight and an exceptional hand-tuned trigger. All rights reserved. Camp Guns: Sometimes Perfect, Other Times Not But Often Essential! Stocky's Owner Don Bitz walks David Faubion through the company's new rifle stocks for 2023. Velocities from pressure barrels are usually higher than velocities from off-the-shelf rifles, but in this case it was quite close at 3,836 fps. I have some 25 grain Calhoon .17 bullets that I have been saving for a while. The .17 Rem's efficient ballistics allow . Springfield Armory Hellion 5.56 NATO Bullpup Rifle: Tested, SIG Sauer P322 .22 Rimfire Pistol: Full Review. Hornadys 15.5-grain NTX (Non-Traditional eXpanding) bullet is a polymer-tipped, lead-free (California legal) option allowing screaming velocity combined with dramatic terminal performance on small varmints. At 100 yards there is still a healthy 3,389fps velocity and 638ft/lb striking energy that is more than enough for humane despatches. : 4,638 4,917 Press. True enthusiasts tend to advise infrequent cleaning of rimfire versions simply to avoid potentially damaging the rifling (and because the rimfire versions just don't leave much fouling) and extreme care in cleaning centerfire versions. Patrick. One in the chamber and another in the magazine makes it a two-shooter. Ill save those bullets for my .17 Hornet. Because the .17 Hornady Hornet case is smaller than the .17 Ackley Hornet case, handloading data for the two cartridges should not be casually interchanged. But the difference was not great. While the S.A.A.M.I.-recommended maximum overall cartridge length is 1.680 inches, my Marlin 1894 feeds 1.720-inch-long rounds without a hitch. A case in point is Hornadys new .17 Hornet with roots back to the beginning of .17-caliber cartridges in the years following World War II. Not only that, but it is also stable in a 1:9 twist, which has become the standard in the caliber (from the original 1:10). Pressure indications were still quite mild in my rifle. The Berger 25-grain bullet preferred 0.010 inch. The first die necks a .22 Hornet case down to .20 caliber. All Rights Reserved. AVERAGE GROUP SIZE WITH MOST ACCURATE BRAND OF AMMUNITION. This means you have the option to read your magazine on most popular phones and tablets. Hodgdon CFE BLK, Shooters World Blackout and Alliant Reloder 10x were auditioned. He killed 17 wolves and 6-8 caribou with that load plus who knows how many foxes and coyotes. How does the performance of the .17s compare with .22 caliber varmint cartridges? The impossibility of getting suitable actions for the .17 Pee Wee cartridge, made it necessary to design several other cartridges which would be suitable for available actions. Another Bee Ill hang onto for a while is a Marlin 1894. This load shoots in all the .17 Remington's I've owned; at about 4040 fps', the advertised Remington velocity. (Photo courtesy of Lane Pearce) September 20, 2022 By Lane Pearce. As I mentioned, running the case through a 17 Ackley Hornet full-length resizing die bumps back the shoulder, allowing it to fit into the Ackley chamber. It has a three-lug action. The author obtained the tools, which took some time, and by the time the tools were ready Mr. ONeil had other things to occupy his mind, so that the project remained static until 1945. CFE BLKs top velocity was 4,532 fps with this bullet using 18 grains of powder, but with poor accuracy. Speaking of casesgood cartridge cases are available from a variety of sources, as is loaded ammunition. | RifleShooter Magazine editor Scott Rupp breaks down all the features of the Mossberg Patriot Predator rifle chambered in 6.5 PRC. Highly accurate cup-and-core, polymer-tipped and Partition bullets cover most bases, and new bonded bullets and several lead-free projectiles add to the .280's versatility. Due to a higher density, more CFE BLK can be packed into a case. Neither the author nor Outdoor Sportsman Group assumes any liability for accidents or injury resulting from the use or misuse of this data. I figured Hornady 20-grain V-MAX bullets would pretty much drop out of the air after they reached 200 yards, but the tiny bullets surprised me. In the .17s I have worked with, the CCI BR-4 has given me the most consistent accuracybut your results may vary. When it comes to choosing a primer, it and the 17 Ackley Hornet can be finicky from rifle to rifle. At those velocities, drift isnt as significant as some would lead you to believe, either. Starting at 18.0 grains of CFE BLK, I worked up to 21.5 grains, a charge that fills the case about halfway up its neck. The next 10, not so much. It requires a little more care than some of the run-of-the-mill cartridges, but it provides more unique results within its niche, too. The new 9mm suppressor can mount easily to any pistol barrel threaded x28 inches and doesn't compromise on sound suppression, gas blowback or recoil. Ackley and others began developing centerfire cartridges smaller than .22 caliber soon after the end of World War II, and they really got busy during the 1950s. Joe Kurtenbach, Executive Editor of Gun & Ammo, and John Myles from Smith & Wesson discuss features of the Equalizer 9mm micro-compact pistol and new-for-2023 M&P 5.7. As with any cartridge, whenever changing to a new lot of powder, its always best to load a few rounds at lower charge weights and chronograph them to check velocity against that of your existing load. For instance, if you want to shoot the new .17 WSM, you're pretty much limited to Savage's B-Mag and perhaps one or two single-shot, novelty type rifles such as Taylor Firearms' little baby Sharps. It ends up with a shorter neck than a case formed from 22 Hornet brass, but prairie dogs dont seem to mind, and accuracy does not suffer. All Rights Reserved. And while the burn rate of CFE BLK is too quick for the 17 Remington, Hodgdon recommends it for the smaller cartridge. A few .12 and .14 calibers emerged, but those of .17 caliber ended up being the most popular. Its cup is softer than that of the Remington 7 primer, but neither of us experienced pierced primers when using a charge 0.3 grain shy of maximum. Accuracy of the two powders in my guns is about the same, but the new powder pushes 40- and 50-grain bullets faster at slightly lower chamber pressures. Ackleys load data lists 25-grain bullets with a velocity of 3,585 fps from 12.0 grains of 4198 and 3,570 fps from 11.5 grains of 4227. It is based on a necked-down .223 Remington case and uses a .172 caliber bullet, making it an ideal choice for those looking for small-caliber performance with minimal recoil. You won't be disappointed if you can find all the components. Hornady and Nosler both make 20-grain bullets. And accuracy improved with a shorter jump in my handloads. In 2007, Remington Arms introduced a new rifle cartridge based on their 221 Fireball necked down to 17 caliber. Compression is light when the Berger 30-grain bullet is seated to an overall cartridge length of 1.830 inches. However, maximum powder charges for the .17 Ackley are 0.2 to 0.7 grain heavier than for the .17 Hornady. Hodgdons listing of 18.0 grains of CFE BLK as maximum for 30- and 35-grain bullets needs clarification. CFE BLK my go-to .221 Fireball rifle powder produced top velocities and good accuracy, including a .48-inch group at 4,250 fps with 17 grains of powder. I started my search for accuracy by seating the Nosler and Berger bullets so that they lightly kissed the rifling. 6 Best .300 PRC (Precision Rifle Cartridge) Rifles, Remington .50-70 Rolling Block History: New York's Pick to Arm Its National Guard, .375 H&H Mag. A steadily mounting accumulation of data makes the following list possible. The .17 Remington is one of the children that the .222 Remington spawned. Hodgdon Powder is the only current source of handloading data I could find for the new and old .17s. Subscriber Services. But by using a 7-inch drop tube, I managed to coax in 18.5 grains behind the Berger 30-grain and Hornady 35-grain bullets. I also like using IMR8208 with the 25gr. Kills are usually quick and clean, and the fur is usually perfect. This bullet was good in its day and set the tone for the .17s reputation as an excellent pelt caliber. Determined to include a Berger 30-grain load in this report, I asked my friends at Hodgdon to shoot it in their 24-inch pressure barrel. Powered by UBB.threads PHP Forum Software 7.7.5. The .17 caliber rimfire cartridges include the .17 M2, .17 HMR and .17 WSM. Caleb Giddings, Marketing Manager at Taurus, introduces the all-new TaurusTX 22 Compact. Copyright 2000-2023 24hourcampfire.com, Inc. All Rights Reserved. All things considered, this new propellant from Hodgdon ranks among the very best choices available for Remingtons littlest .22-caliber centerfire cartridge. A friend of mine has two custom rifles in 17 Hornet, and accuracy from one is best with the Remington 6, while the other prefers the Winchester WSR. To get started, click the link below to visit mymagnow.com and learn how to access your digital magazine. During the first years of World War II, Mr. ONeil came up with the idea of a .17 caliber cartridge, believed to have been based on the .22 Hornet. sierra Gameking , AOL. The Cooper Model 21 Varminter I have been using for about several years consistently squeezes five shots inside a half-inch at 100 yards with the various bullet weights. Bullets were made out of copper wire and results on small game such as prairie dogs were quite amazing. Cases last just short of forever, an important consideration when choosing a powder for loading bucketfuls of cartridges needed for defending your position from hordes of crazed flickertails. Respective starting charge weights for those two bullets are 15.8 and 15.3 grains. Many primers have cups (the actual portion of the primer that the firing pin strikes) that are either too thin or too soft for the top loads in this cartridge. I got to know Ackley while he was doing some rifle work for me during the 1960s and 70s. He did try some CFE 223 and was very happy with it. Very accurate and fast in Remington 700 BDL sporter xswanted Gold $$ Contributor Feb 22, 2017 #6 I tried it. Factory .223 Remington loads often provide good accuracy, but the cartridge is a great choice for handloaders who want to duplicate or even exceed factory ammunition ballistics. Hammer Bullets 18 grain Dead Blow is another excellent nontoxic (California compliant) option milled from a single piece of copper. A 9.5-grain charge of LilGun shot five 20-grain Bergers in .78 inch at 100 yards. 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The interior magazine length of Remington Model 700 rifles chambered for this cartridge is shortened at the factory by the installation of a filler block. I have also done a lot of work with the Federal 205 and 205 Match, and these primers also work wellbut will also start to flatten and can pierce more easily than the first three mentioned. Jeff Bradley shows off the Modern Hunting Rifle (MHR) from Christensen Arms at SHOT Show 2023. Of the powders CFE BLK, H-4198 and Accurate 2200 used with this bullet, H-4198 proved lackluster accuracy-wise, the best group only .87-inch at 4,226 with 17 grains of powder. Hornady loads its .17 Hornet Superformance Varmint cartridges with 20-grain V-MAX bullets and 15.5-grain NTX bullets, with a stated muzzle velocity of 3,650 fps for the V-MAX and 3,870 fps for the NTX. Good brushes, a good one-piece rod, a bore guide and a solvent at least equal to Shooters Choice are all smart investments. The Berger 30-grain bullet delivered only slightly better accuracy with 0.005-inch jump than with no jump, and an increase of another 0.005 inch opened up groups. The first one was the .17 Hornet, closely followed by the .17 Bee and later by the .17/222.. Beth Shimanski of Savage introduces their all new straight-pull rifle. Zippy 25-grain projectiles exit the muzzle in excess of a jaw-dropping 4,000 fps. CFE BLK shined, with 16 grains of powder producing a .45-inch group at 3,792 fps, and a maximum load of 17 grains printing .50 inch at 4,091 fps. I can say that IMR 8208 XBR is fast becoming my favorite powder. Lot-to-lot powder variations do exist and in a cartridge this small, they can cause a significant difference in pressure and velocity. The V-MAX bullets had an average velocity of 3,567 fps for 10 shots recorded 10 feet in front of the muzzle of the 21.90-inch barrel of a CZ 527 American. I prefer the 25-grain V-Max in the .17 Remington because it slices through wind a bit better than the 20-grain version, and it delivers more energy to boot. Small powder charges result in cleaner shooting than the .17 Remington though all .17-caliber cartridges require frequent barrel cleaning to assure continued accuracy. After shooting 80 Hornady loads one afternoon, I soaked the CZs bore with solvent for a day and then gave it a good scrubbing with a bronze brush. The new big bore pistols feature industry-first capacity, with a standard 15-round capacity and 22+1 rounds of 10mm or 18+1 rounds of .45 ACP from the extended magazines. And for those who have grown weary of forming 17 Ackley Hornet cases from 22 Hornet brass, I have included a CFE BLK load in Hornadys 17 Hornet case. Beyond that distance, the Swift was the clear winner at bucking wind and dropping whistle pigs in mid-munch. I was shooting a custom Remington 40X in .220 Swift, and out to 300 yards my friend never failed to match me shot for shot. 55mm. Well Russ, you picked a bullet I've never tried. Nosler makes both a hollowpoint and a Tipped projectile in the Varmageddon line, while Hornady makes a 20-grain V-MAX, as well as a 25-grain V-MAX if you like a little heavier option. Moving to bigger cartridges, when the Hornady 20-grain V-Max exits the .17 Rem. .17 WSM ammunition includes Winchester Elite with 20 and 25 grain tipped bullets, Hornady with a 20 grain V-MAX tipped bullet and Federal American Eagle brand with a 20 grain tipped bullet. can also be quite accurate. Like some other spherical powders, Hodgdon CFE BLK performs best in cartridge case capacity/bullet weight combinations that allow 90 to 100 percent load density. Rod Herrett stocked the gun, and Fred Smith fitted its 15-inch Shilen barrel. I may just have to try a few of those with the 8208 powder as well. In this cartridge, an overcharge of a fraction of a grain, particularly when working with near maximum loads, can produce excessive pressuresso a little extra care in this step is essential. All are clean burning and temperature insensitive. This is a consummate varmint rifle, including a long, heavy barrel for maximum velocity and minimal warming between shots, with molded synthetic stock and forearm vents to promote barrel cooling. at 3,800 fps has close to the same trajectory. Vihtavuori N133, IMR-8308 XBR and Accurate LT-30 were paired with this bullet, but none particularly impressed. The introduction of LilGun by Hodgdon in 1999 was one of the best things to happen to the 221 Fireball, and I was curious to see how slower-burning CFE BLK would stack up against it. Reibers load consisted of the Remington 6 primer, Hornady case, and Hornady 20-grain V-Max seated out to lightly engage the rifling. The neck of the case will be shorter than on cases formed from .22 Hornet brass, but accuracy is the same and flickertails dont seem to mind. Even the report of most .17-caliber guns is mild, particularly that of rimfire versions. Based on reloading die sales at RCBS, Ackleys .17 Hornet Improved is still one of the most popular cartridges of its caliber among varmint shooters.

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