Not embarrassed to say I was a member and yes, they were very real. This was not the end of the Red Wings gang, however. The bullets were just whizzing by my ear. I also belonged to a gang from Mount Vernon, a somewhat more serious group. hairstyle later made famous by Fonzie from Happy Days. There was hookers toohookers is what we mostly fucked. If two women came into a bar, they never paid for a drink and nobody even went over to talk to them. Little Italy was strictly Italian. Egyptian Dragons". A lot of guys got hurt, and a couple a guys got hurt really bad. All the defendants were found guilty and the shooters Ciappetta and Gugliemelli were sent to prison for twenty years. So it worked both ways. We were trying to imitate them. Police break up gang rumble in the making on a Saturday night in I got locked up in 80 and came out in 83. Because then you cant be in your own neighborhood carrying a pistol. So it was an epidemic, but an economic type of epidemic. Can't remember all their name and only some of their last names. They cornered him, stabbed him three times, and shot him in the ass. (1) The Harlem Redwings did a "drive-by" on the Fordham Baldies, on At our peak, we were only about 100 strong, but the Dirty Ones had chapters in Bay Ridge and the Bronx. Underneath the hill, there were the train tracks. Thats all I ever wanted to do. You see it firsthand, and its all bullshit really. We didnt have rules or initiations. Click here to learn more about Ernests life as well as pictures of Ernie before he was killed. If they wandered to our side of the park, Bronx Park East or we into their side there was trouble. down on them. They were a very big club. They fought on the handball court with no shoes on. The last thing we wanted was heat on the block. I think I shot two or three times with my .25 before it jammed. From the east side, are For everybodyespecially our people but even for strangers, what we called Merigans, like Ameriganswe had respect for all of them. Inside, sipping a soda, was Ernest Montuoro. Farmer was a polio stricken kid who was attacked by a gang called: "The Eventually, though, it got to where you were lucky to get within a block of each other. Who was I supposed to hang out with? Wake him up, hustle. one fistfights and it would be over. There was nothing you could do about it. One gang, the Fordham Baldies were reputed to shave the heads, and other body parts, of those they caught. All of us went to school together. In them days, it was no big thing. Anybody who had a Boy after their nameJohnny Boy, Frankie Boythey were always in trouble, cause they were always trying to prove they were a man. You could see how things escalated. When we were done I carried him up four flights of stairs on my shoulders to his house, stoned out of my head. That was a typical night. All except the sadistic Ducky Boys who seem to suddenly materialize at the opportune moment, are more like social clubs and do little besides partying and hanging out. In fact, sometimes the girls would rumble with other clubs without the guys knowing. We had the apartment on the first floor and even the old guys from the neighborhood would come in and play cards and dominoes. I remember my first encounter with a drive-by. Now were going to wear these denim jackets with patches on them. And then all of a sudden, youd find yourself claiming a piece of Brooklyn as your fuckin real estate. We got your neighborhood. And wed turn around and say, Yeah, yeah, you got so much. Fordham Baldies is on Facebook. This event took place in Washington Heights, On weekdays, there was always some 'ducky members' to be found playing hooky." That freaked me out. It was all music and sex and everybody getting high. It feels bad. In the 1960s, among students citywide, truancy increased and socializing gained priority, whereby other high schools often issued diplomas once their requirements were met via Roosevelt's evening and summer . All of them met violent deaths. We hung around Aberdeen Park. In fact, you dont turn around for anybody either. They were like, "Who's the. Their members use racial epithets to describe their rivals. Mostly we drank wine. They looked at both of us, and I was a little relieved because I said to myself, well, they really was there, so Im gonna walk. Their gang was the Comanchero Chaplains. Rumors often swept Bronx high schools in the 1950s and 1960s that "the Baldies were coming" to confront the student body, at the generally docile Bronx High School of Science and the more macho, all-male DeWitt Clinton High School. And sometimes it didnt. At that time I was doing a lot of harm to the Dukes, and the cops figured, lets get him off the streets. It doesnt get any worse than that. formed. Wed be going across the Williamsburg Bridge, shooting at them, them shooting at us. A Retired member described the Duckies, a gang featured in the Movie "The Wanderer": "The Ducky Gang (not just boys) lol. This was found to be a nice touch in the Wanderers movie, but in reality, the Fordham Baldies were named for the bald eagle and had the duck's ass or "D.A." hairstyle later made famous by . It was just a lucky shot and it went right through this guys arm. I remember a particular time when a group of us girls had a rumble with a gang called the Seven Immortals. We meet the Wanderers (Italian), the Del Bombers (Black), the Wongs (Asian Kung Fu), and the Fordham Baldies (oversized bald guys). The RailRoad Boys, East New York/Bedford-Stuyvesant, Brooklyn. At the same time, Henry remembers . 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We had everything sold by sunrise. Me and another Unknown Biker were convicted for it. Big deal.. So thats how it happened. bayonets, brass knuckles, and garrison belts before officers swoop When I was growing up, stealing old ladies pocketbooks was the big thing. The gangs -- with names such as the Ducky Boys, Del Bombers and Fordham Baldies (who really are bald) -- are racially segregated. The Dukes were on Roebling and South 3rd, over to South 1st. Jun.1, 1954 - Several Members of the Red Wings' gang from East Harlem drove to Fordham Baldies turf in the Bronx and shoot dead Ernest Montuoro after being insulted in a fracas at Orchard Beach. That was when the neighborhood was mostly German, Irish, and Italian. We ran up there, disassembled a few chimneys, and took some bricks and some bottles. We had colorsblue sweaters. The year given is the year of the film's release or first season of the series. They banded together too, and thats the way it went. When we were on Lee Avenue there was this black guy. This time we were up on the roofs throwing things down on them: Bricks, bottles, cans you could kill somebody if you hit em with a garbage can of rocks from 50 feet up. 42nd Street was like a neutral area, unless you ran into clubs from different boroughs. For about ten minutes the two groups faced off against each other, calling each other names, threatening each other, and in the Baldies case, jeering Bella. Every Friday and Saturday night I would go to factories on Bedford Avenue, Wythe Avenue, and Flushing Avenue. For each institution, films are listed by release date, starting with the most recent. When he died, my brother Carlos took over. The Hunts Point area is the poorest place you can be. Wed look down on them and theyd look up at us. We were always there. The Fordham Rams are the varsity sports teams for Fordham University.Their colors are maroon and white. With that money Id buy wine and cigarettes. John Gotti, too. We went for the cheap wine. Me and him got along because there was no competition and we really loved each other. Its cheaper than coke, and you get whacked on it. One summer, we got into it with the Spanish gang. There was always some guy who got beat up and they took the sweater and we had to go find out who took it and get it back. Thats where the money was. 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It was the stomping grounds of both the real-life Fordham Baldies gang, immortalized by Richard Price in The Wanderers, as well as where then-presidential candidate John F. Kennedy addressed a. The Fordham Baldies in a way were my first singing group, They would back up my singing and guitar playing in my Bronx Neighborhood, Schoolyard Parties, Our Clubroom Dances,1956, 1957 Heroin was a big thing in the 60s. Then another five would do another dance routine, and it became like a fucking dance-off. I never jumped anybody. The Micheal Farmer killing was an incident that happened during the showing of West Sometimes. We would let him go because he was with his girl. It was just fighting all the time. (2) Police busted up a rumble between two (South) Bronx gangs. Yeah, it was nice. From the sweaters we went to a shirt, and from the shirt we finally got to patches. People from the neighborhood never called the cops on us because we were never troublemakers. Wed get high and go into the city. He wanted to hang out so bad that he let us call him Snowball. By the way, there were always fights yet it was all handled with reverence, one on one. All of a sudden wed start hitting each other. It was because of who you were. The Woodside Chiefs, of whom I was a member were not a gang. The quarterback of the Lynvettes, Thomas "Tommy" Wall, a Woodsider and former Chief QB said about the Chiefs "in the off season we were a gang." The Woodside Chiefs, teenage boys, were self funded. We would hang out in these abandoned buildings that we had electricity running into. They. Facebook gives people the power to share and makes the world more open and connected. I got in, it was dark, and then when I put on the light all I saw was coffins, so I ran out. In the summer we were always out there, like 15 or 20 of us, sitting on the steps in summer, drinking beer, and bullshitting. We spent a couple nights in jail. No matter where you went, even the toughest gangsfuckin Puerto Ricans, blacks, whateverthey wouldnt fuck with us. This time it was a Red Wings invasion. https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Bronx_gangs_(1950s1960s)&oldid=1101692437, This redirect does not require a rating on the project's, This page was last edited on 1 August 2022, at 09:49. A lot of them I met through fighting with them. I also had to fight some of the guys in the club. With a peculiar frequency, a click of the cable remote shows the Fordham Baldies hanging out at the corner of Fordham Road and Grand Concourse, the foot chase through 1963 central Bronx alleyways . The police were able to trace the car to Giamppetruzzi and a week later had arrested all the defendants in the case. But that was once in a while, you know? They talked about it, shook hands, and then we were brother clubs. We were fighting with everybody. That happened a lot. They still have them down there, these buildings where the cellars have all these different rooms. The balcony on 204th and the 'tunnels', and the whole area surrounding Twin Lakes was our turf! It was nothing to have like three or four shootouts a day. At about 4:55 p.m. after asking around where the Baldies hung out, the Red Wings rolled up on Piggys Candy store, double parking in front. They Although the Jewish residents of East Harlem moved to other areas of NYC, they stayed in the neighborhood to sell their wares, either door to door, or via a storefront business. Convicted Red Wings were Frank Ciappetta, Vincent Gugliemelli, Philip Bonanno, Jerry Santaniello and Frank Giampetruzzi. We did most of our dirty business on the railroad tracks, so we got the name The Railroad Boys. People hustled their money. The film is based on the novel of the same name by Richard Price; its screenplay was written by Philip Kaufman and his wife Rose. The guys in the restaurants were cool with us, and in return, we took care of them. We didnt mess with the people from the neighborhood. Like 12 or 13. The bullet penetrated his abodmen wall and because of the injury his leg became gangrenous and he had to have his right leg amputated several inches above the knee. There was a lot of acrimony between the Red Wings and Puerto Rican gangs from East Harlem like the Dragons and Viceroys. Here is what Piggys Candy Store looks like today now it appears to be an Islamic school. You have to flip your colors. They started getting nasty. We went to the same school and we were all young. The Spanish guys were different. Finally the Youth Squadthe special police squad they set up just to deal with the gang problemgot involved. They had high collars, buttoned down, and on the back you had RR. But we didnt really go out of our way too much with the sweaters and the costumes. Caleo took another bullet just about the left buttock, near his belt line. On a warm Saturday night, wed all be up on the hill. Thats how popular heroin was. All the gangs were there: The Sportsmen, that was a big black gang, pretty tough guys, and the Dragons, that was the Puerto Rican gang. So Id go back to the club, feed myself, feed my man and whoever else was there. I never robbed anybody. It worked the same way for us when we were in their neighborhood. Now they were even stronger, hardened by. But I never did. But it isnt like we were setting out to take over the building. Tully High School seniors Richie, Joey and Perry run with a gang called The Wanderers in the Bronx. It was about territory. Such rumors would often bring along a large police presence, and long disruptions. Everybody else ran. Having an Active Minds Chapter in your school can be an important step in changing the conversation about mental health. Five leather jacket clad Astoria gangs almost mix it up with A close knit group that consisted mainly of blacks and Puerto Ricans, You had the Dirty Ones up by Graham Avenue. He used to shake when he walked and shit like that. This let anyone down in the park know you were coming. The Ducky was not predominantly irish or anything else, but yes, we were certainly a 'large' group. Violence back then, if you put it on a scale, Id say it was about a seven. Ernests son is now 58 years old and just now found out about his familys history in New York City. There were like 20 of us. If youre in my club, I take you at face value. Richard Price lived in Parkside Projects and hung out with a different crowd then us. You have it all. FYI, this list is from The College Finder, 2017 edition now available! Eventually, if you hung out in that neighborhood you tried pills or pot, or whatever other crap came into town. Id get up, go to my friends house at eight in the morning, and knock on his door. There was a shootout and it so happens that she was working at that time, and she got killed. But yeah, I broke into every factory. We just got along. Interestingly, this second nephew of Ernests that emailed me works just a few miles from where Ernest was shot and killed. Chemistry Faculty. Actually, I wish I could go back a couple years. Thats when we were first coming up. Search . It goes something like this: While at school, a rumour makes the rounds that the Baldies are coming to the school (insert school name here). Students are in an uproar and are on pins and needles, waiting for a Baldy invasion. Us, the Chaplains, and the Spanish guys all got together and they gave us an ultimatum: Either we made peace or we were gonna start going to jail. They didnt like me too much. Thats how the whole biker thing came about first. The reputation of the Baldies name had preceded them and the mere mention of Baldies, was good enough to get everyone worried about an impending gang attack. A lot of the guys started moving out of the neighborhood or going off to Vietnam. It was a black guy who did it to him, in a fight over a girl. To this day, we still hang out, and wed do anything for each other. But thats the way they did it in those days. Today, thats what the gangs call itthe Bloods, the Crips, all of them, they call it flagging: I die for my flag. You get high. Everything was about turf. There was one Irish kid, I think, and one black kid. Originating in the late 1940s, the Red Wings appeared on the record until at least 1959. I would buy it from Italian guys over on Avenue D, but not guys that we actually knew. Im 46 now and Im still with this thing. That was our block, so we had to protect everybody from other people who would come in and mess up the block. Me and a couple friends of mine went to a hooker. The only time I ever went to the hospital was the first time I got shot, because I didnt know what to expect. THE OFFICIAL WEBSITE OF FORDHAM UNIVERSITY ATHLETICS Main Navigation Menu. Everybody kept their eyes open. I snorted it, sometimes I shot it, but not often. You stick a car antenna in it and file down the part that you cock backthe hammer. Thats how I used to get my money. We had a buyer for every piecenot even from garages. When they started with the knives, we started with the zip guns. We had a clubhouse. Not every club was friendly. The apartments were filled with rats and roaches, we had no heat or hot water half the time, pipes were falling down, ceilings were leaking. All the gangs recognized and even esteemed one another showing respect. This was on Fulton and Rockaway, a half block from my house. I used to hide sometimes on the corner and wait for him, just hoping to get him. Prostitution was everywhere too. There were some crazy kids, though. But that didnt last too long once they got used to it. Wed get harassed by the cops all the time, but then again, that was a time when if you had a fight on the street, the cops would grab you, kick you in the ass, and send you on your way like, Get outta here. Mario was Ernests brother but passed away a couple of days prior to his son emailing me in March 2012. of the day,' black leather jackets dungarees and boots. It was just: This is your part of Brooklyn, this is my part of Brooklyn. It got to the point where you couldnt walk outside of a radius of five or ten blocks. Usually it was chains or sticks; knives and zip guns occasionally. Your chances of going to jail were even worse. What used to happen was, wed hang out at someones apartment, but then theyd move out. After a few of them you could do anything. Robbing and stealing wasnt a big thing. Some Red Wings attended near-by Benjamin Franklin High School. Only Chinese guys did opium. There was a guy called the Baron and a guy called Bob the Queer, and theyd get us whatever we wanted. The gang was started around 1955 by the older guys. I got arrested October 1980, came home December 1993. If you drank that, it was like forget about it. And they wouldnt flip colors. You werent even allowed to kick the guy once he was down. But down in Chinatown, you could buy a tin of cocaine snuff for 25 cents. Corona Queens - Best Italian Ice in New york City. I turned out to be one of them, and it cost me a lot. I could make up to $20. Read more about Bronx Gangs (1950s1960s): Popular Culture, who chained themselves to subways for the endless ride from Batteryto holy Bronx on benzedrine until the noise of wheels and childrenbrought them down shuddering mouth-wracked and battered bleak of brain and drained of brilliance in the drear light of Zoo,Allen Ginsberg (b. Back then, Id get up in the morning, 7:30 or so, go stand on the corner by the train station, and ask for quarters. We had a riot on Fulton Street one time, and thats what we did. They parked the Caddy and settled in at Section 17 of Orchard Beach which at the time was divided into 27 sections (now it is divided into 13 sections). Id be there for a few hours. But you can find where it was filmed on this list. THE OFFICIAL WEBSITE OF FORDHAM UNIVERSITY ATHLETICS Main Navigation Menu. It was a crazy neighborhood. Two friends of mine once had to fight at Coney Island because thats where the argument happened. At that point, all everybody wanted to do was sell drugs. This guy Frankie Boy was my best friend because he was really tough and I wasnt. I joined the gang so I could go out with a guy. I was 13 or 14 when I started. He was able to shed some light on his father Mario and how he felt about Ernests death at the hands of the Red Wings. I left my mothers house when I was 14. Murder Inc. came out of that neighborhood. I was 12 or 13. I think that had a lot to do with the fact that I wasnt a member. There would be 20 or 25 of them and 20 or 25 of us. We didnt shake nobody down or hurt nobody. lol" Another former gang member from the Garrisons had this to say about the Duckies: "If you were planning to visit the Botanical Gardens in the Bronx you needed to concern yourself with the "Duck(ie)s." Legend has it, if you are visiting the Bronx Botanical Gardens and blast out a 'Duckie Whistle', Duckies will show up to greet you till this day! Then you were on file. His mind was OK, but hed be talking and hed start laughing cause he couldnt help it. You went home, you needed a couple of stitches, you know, you went to the neighborhood drugstore, you got butterfly stitches. If you had war with somebody, then you could walk around their block wearing your colors, trying to be funny. I got into the gangs very, very early. And I tell you, it was a great fuckin scam. But it wasnt like they asked us to. So I think a lot of it had to do with that. You came, you hung out, you drank a bottle of wine, you went crazy like everybody else. The book is 6x9 and has 370 pages! I proposed some sections, but there is still lots of work to be done. You lived in an apartment with four rooms and four people, and it was so close that you really lived in the street because you had to get out of the house. at the Astoria Houses at 27th Ave. Patrol cars screamed into both They were like, Whos the president? and a couple of guys went over, and we had this truce. After I received this email, I received yet another email, this time from Ernests niece who has some stories to share about Ernest that her father shared with her. 71.184.65.20 (talk) 19:53, 28 March 2011 (UTC)Reply[reply], That can't possibly be a real gang. A famous quote about the Woodside Chiefs is in a book by Robert Timberg titled "State of Grace" Simon & Shuster, 2004. Then of course the cops picked up on the block guys from neighborhood! 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